Retirees may not work at BNSF any longer, but many are active in their communities and play an important role as unofficial ambassadors for BNSF. The Milwaukee Road in the 1970s combined orchanged some crew districts, both on the Puget Sound extension and elsewhere. Usually though, a long pool crew on trains that normally go to the short pool will still change out at Boone and theLP crew will continue on to the other end in a van. BNSF needles to Winslow. ), --Ken Stitzel (k@fc.hp.com)Learning Products Engineer (tech writer with functional enhancements)Hewlett-Packard Company (a pretty cool company to work for) Fort Collins, Colorado, USA (Opinions stated herein are provided without warranty and are not representative of official or unofficial HP policy on crew/helperhelp. At times they will change within minutes of stopping at the "crosswalk" where employees cross the mainline, and at other times the incoming crew will "tie down" their train on the main-line and the train will wait for literally hours on the main for the outgoing (new) crew. (Trains that continue to Ft Worth changenext at Childress but the Dalhart to Childress and Childressto Ft Worth segments are also over ambitious. > * Denver south: Pueblo> * Pueblo south: Trinidad? http://www.oaktreeinn.com/Hotels is a current list of hotels. (Except when that train gets too long, then it goes back to the short pool.) More than just lines on a map, a railroad is people. Since crews are usually pooled on a first-in, first-out basis, everyone still has the same opportunity to rack up miles and thus pay. Today, 41 years later and the HOS at 12 hours (changed Dec. 26, 1972) the crew usually do not have trouble making it from SLO to LA (which is still inter-divisional, but only a one ended pool). They also handle (normally) the salad shooters. No? BNSF crews frequently change crews here at Eola yard in Aurora, IL. > * Denver northeast: Sterling, CO? This website is best viewed in Chrome or Safari. Our community is FREE to join. A minor correction to Agentkid's posting. Open navigation menu About ten years ago the railroad proposed moving almost everyone from Boone to Rochelle. myemployer, any other railroad, company, or person. I have to look thru some stuff, but I think they used to change at Melstone, MT. The last time we were in Albany, werode back to the station with a road crew in the van, and I engaged in some conversation with them. Thanks in advance for your help.Ken Stitzel wrote: You do not have permission to delete messages in this group. Then Alliance, NE? Maybe an old BN expert can help us here, but didn't BN change some crew districts in Montana to run up to 450 miles? Here there be cats. At BNSF, we are proud and honored to receive recognitions from various organizations. Click here to learn about the Unlimited Membership. It's a way to stay informed about the company, learn more about how freight rail contributes to our way of life, explore the company's rich history and connect with other BNSF supporters. Curiosity about Melstone got to me and found out that it now has a population of 96, down from 136 in 2000. And, crew change points were (and still are)not always the same for engine crews and for train crews on the same train. I was wondering about crewchangepoints along the UP and BNSF in the Midwest. Then Alliance, NE? Learn more about what it means to do business with BNSF and the process we use for working with suppliers. Back to CP for a moment, Calgary-Edmonton, AB is broken into two Sub's.,Red Deer and Leduc, totaling about 180 miles. BNSF is forever proud of its heritage and history, and we combine that with a never-ending drive to explore new technologies and approaches where appropriate to enhance safety and efficiency. Years ago while overnighting in the Super 8 in Ft Madison, Iowa I had the pleasure to talk to a BNSF (ex Santa Fe) crewman. BNSF crew change points. | TrainBoard.com - The Internet's Original Railroads & Locomotives Maps BNSF Railway crew districts. The home terminal is the place where the crew normally goes to work; usually, its where the crew members live. Garrett - Chciago is about 150 miles while Williard - Chicago is around 280. Zug, you guys must have really been tired. Update: Judge decides on BNSF new attendance policy | kcentv.com Not every crew change point has one (Mason City, IA may be getting one in the future) but except for the few in the eastern US, all are UP crew change points. BNSFs Economic Development team can help guide you through the process of expanding, developing or selecting a site. Melstone was almost certainly a crew change location in that it was almost exactly halfway between Harlow and Miles, along with being the only spot between Roundup and Miles City with more than two parallel tracks. Correct on the Rawlins/Green River crew change. Men in road service on the Louisiana Division of the IC were based in McComb, Mississippi, which is about 100 miles from New Orleans and from Canton, Mississippi--and about 149 miles from Gwin, Mississippi, on the route through the Delta(the last two were junctions with the Tennessee Division) Passenger trains ran between Canton and New Orleans, and through freights ran between Gwin and New Orleans, on the Louisiana Division. In older times, it would take much longer as the trains were slower. At Galesburg we have 2 westbound stack trains, a couple of eastbound stackers, eastbound P train, plus the roadrailers, and vehicle trains. BNSF Crew Change Points (Transcon and Hi Line). Does the UP still have a Proviso to Boone long pool? Additionally, if employees fall into the top 10 percent of hours worked, they can earn points. A train in the long pool uses one less crew than if it goes to the short pool. Lowest Point : 456 ft @ Topock, AZ. In the early 1970's the law was changed to 14 hours and subsequently todays 12 hours. Fully responsible for all aspects of the North American operation including profit and loss, contract negotiation, customer retention, business development, sales, marketing, process management,. At times they will change within minutes of stopping at the "crosswalk" where employees cross the mainline, and at other times the incoming crew will "tie down" their train on the main-line and the train will wait for literally hours on the main for the outgoing (new) crew. I'm sure that longer crew districts in other places are coming Our community is FREE to join. Since trains are stopping to give one crew rest and to pick up fresh conductors and engineers, adding another "lane" allows trains that have completed their crew change to get moving again and for faster traffic to pass slower traffic more readily. Then Casper and Greybull. The contract has major safety implicationsespecially amid North America's dangerous, and sometimes deadly, crude-by-rail boom. Years ago while overnighting in the Super 8 in Ft Madison, Iowa I had the pleasure to talk to a BNSF (ex Santa Fe) crewman. At the time we were having trouble going from Boone to Clinton in 12 hours. For pay purposes,a basic day is 130 miles, up from the original 100 mile day for freight. Staying at one of the lodging motels can be interesting, but I wouldnt suggest being too inquiring these days. BNSF Railway, Monon Route passenger trains photo gallery. The "run through"was established in 1970, not too long before I started my railway career with CP in that area. Some are overlays on existing crew districts for certain type trains, intermodal for example. Shop online for BNSF-branded merchandise. 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From then to now trains on this subdivision are crewed by running trades employees whose home terminals are at Toronto and Smiths Falls. - Erik. She apologized andI pardoned her and let her go on to wherever it was she needed to go quickly. I'd wonder if the average speed of the slowest Milwaukee freights on the Trans-Missouri Division during the first generation diesel era would have been more like 25 MPH as opposed to 12.5 MPH. Back in my road days, when we'd end up at a hotel after a very long and tiring trip, and some guy who was obviously an over-eager railfan would see us and ask us if we were railroaders, we'd always answer: NOPE! Ensure a safe, slow approach from others with this railroad-themed logo mask! Nothing against the over-eager railfans, but the only thing we wanted to think about was sleep. -- Steve Holmes, Steve Holmes Productions (helping companies communicate through award-winning video)Iowa City, IA, USAhttp://www.shpvideo.com My address: sigerson "at" inav "dot" net (replace "" words withsymbols). Kevin Knutson is a Gillette-based conductor and union leader who has worked for the railroad for over 40 years. I wish I had asked a trainman how the pay was calculated, since some of the turn arounds were short. The contents of those containers and trailers range from everyday items like clothes, appliances and TVs to the special gift you ordered online for your mother's birthday. Apparently extending crew districts is in E. Hunter Harrison's bag of tricks, which as far as I know now, he hasn't yet pulled out. Jeff:Thanks for the explanations. I'd wonder if the average speed of the slowest Milwaukee freights on the Trans-Missouri Division during the first generation diesel era would have been more like 25 MPH as opposed to 12.5 MPH. > > UP crew changes:> * Denver east: no idea> * Denver south: Pueblo> * Denver west: Bond, then Grand Junction> * Denver north: Cheyenne> * Pueblo south: same as BNSF, presumably, No, only one crew Pueblo to Dalhart. Something unheard of even 5 years ago, just before the bottom dropped out. Her husband is also a conductor. )* UP east from Grand Junction??? Some railroads do have expanded crew districts. Rail is the most environmentally efficient mode of surface transportation and at BNSF we are committed to improving the efficiency of our network in a way that benefits both our customers and the environment. BNSF is a critical link that connects consumers with the global marketplace. BNSF crew changes: * Denver east: used to be in Akron, CO, but I think they moved it all the way out to McCook, NE. Something unheard of even 5 years ago, just before the bottom dropped out. It is interesting when you look at old ETT's. Which meant that many crewsmight not be able to make the far treminal on their HOS. * Pueblo east: ??? Which meant that many crewsmight not be able to make the far treminal on their HOS. (While not directly owned, supposedly the ownership has ties to the UP.) I think the Miles City to Harlowton run was one of them. showing freights running at 50+ MPH between Miles City and Harlowton, which would put the start to stop time at a bit over 4 hours. This is via La Junta,they can't go via Trinidad. Points are deducted for taking time off, especially at times that the railroad deems inconvenient. Here we explore how our investments and innovations enable the reliable and efficient delivery of freight. I doubt many trains could've made the extra 70 or so miles to Rochelle on their hours. Some trains that go into LPC or to the connecting roads like the CSX, IHB, BRC, and NS change out at Savanna. EDIT: To answer the original poster's question I checked with what limited ressources I have, and found the following CP (ex Soo Line) crew change points in his part of the world. This is part one of a video I made on my tour 8 across the country 2018 stopping in Needles California at the BNSF train yard to catch one of the many trains. LION *knows* that Mandan is a crew change point, but Dickinson is so no longer, and the next crew change point is Glendive, MT. Forsome railroaders getting in on the other end, actually either end, the first thing they think about is beer. Classic Railroad Scenes: Railroads at Work. Even a 25 MPH scheduled speed would result in an 8 hour trip. Here GN 441's train entered the Glasgow Sub of the Montana Division; only 145 more miles to Big Sky Country. BNSF Railway's first-in-the-industry Tribal Relations program seeks to build and strengthen ties . : I thought I read that UP phased out Rawlins, and all trains go through: to Green River from Cheyenne. BNSF Railway opens fourth main track through Needles, Calif. - Trains Vancouver, WA (Portland)-Pasco, WA-Hauser,ID, Hauser, ID-Missoula, MT-Helena, MT-Laurel, MT. (At least it was when I was there last week), Sharon Springs, Kansas (It used to be Oakley), > * Denver south: Pueblo> * Denver west: Bond, then Grand Junction> * Denver north: Cheyenne> * Pueblo south: same as BNSF, presumably. I've searched the Web and have came up with a few locations for the BNSF. Lately, they are alsohandling most of the auto racks and one Q manifest. Highlighting our commitment to safety, service, communities and our heritage. Some were/are longer, some were/are shorter. Here is what I think I know about some of the crew districts andhelper districts in and around Colorado. Serving Carrier Reciprocal Switch Inquiry. Why Sign In? Sterling, then Guernsey for most trains, Alliancethen Edgemont, Gillette, Sheridan if they are going that way. Crew Change Points, Belen to Barstow - RAILROAD.NET * Denver north:. / Belen / Clovis / Avard? The western end of the Hi-Line should read like this; Interbay (Seattle)-Wentachee, WA.-Hauser, ID-Whitefish, MT.-Shelby, MT.-Havre, MT. BNSF's Needles Sub Map and Railfan Info - TrainWeb.org To clarify, Chicago to North La Crosse is one district, and Galesburg to North La, > To clarify, Chicago to North La Crosse is one. While they have been built to provide lodging for AFHT crews, they are open to the public as well. Alaska Railfanning / My ARR Photos on Flickr. I can remember when the "featherbedding" talk began, about needing to keep crews in the trains longer because the trains were faster and did they really need three men in the cab and two in the rear. Raton, NM??? I think the Miles City to Harlowton run was one of them. I recall seeing a Steffee speed survey (mid-1960's?) Major stations: Barstow, Ash Hill; Yards: Needles; Crew Change Points: Needles, Barstow Junctions: Daggett (UPRR Cima Sub) MP 739.6 Highest point: 2187 @ Lavic; Lowest Point: 620 @ Amboy . I doubt many trains could've made the extra 70 or so miles to Rochelle on their hours. Here, youll find news releases, customer notifications and media assets available for use by news organizations. Thanks in advance for your help. ), then Ogden?> > Helper Districts:> > Between the closing of Tennessee Pass and the use of remote units, I'm> not sure there are any permanent helper districts anymore. I have to look thru some stuff, but I think they used to change at Melstone, MT. I was wondering about crewchangepoints along the UP and BNSF in the Midwest. In Canada CN began running longer crew districts on the prairies in the 1990's, I think. Someone emailed this info to me. The mainliners just blast through town. For 170 years, BNSF has played a vital role in building and sustaining this nation's economy. Some crew change points were simply the points at which one railroad had a junction with another. Rail Network Maps | BNSF I can remember when the "featherbedding" talk began, about needing to keep crews in the trains longer because the trains were faster and did they really need three men in the cab and two in the rear. Official site: Where are the crew change points between Belen and Barstow, and are Belen and Barstow themselves also crew change points? BNSF's Public Projects team is the point of contact for the communities we serve when they desire to deliver infrastructure projects that cross, intersect, or parallel BNSF's network in some way. "And as far as working 40 hours per trip, again what they're not telling you is, yes, we may be on a train for seven to eight hours going to our destination or back," she said. Find the right person at BNSF to answer your question by filling out our form. With only one curve sharper than 3 degrees between the two points, the track alignment was well suited for 50 to 60 MPH freight running - though track maintenance may have been another story. They needed the people because they didn't have them.". The oldest long crew division on CP in Canada is the BrooksSubdivision from Medicine Hat to Alyth (Calgary). * Denver north: Cheyenne, WY, then . If I recall correctly, the Miles City to Harlowtown run was one crew district which works out to 215 miles. All engine crews changed in McComb; thus all passenger engine crews ran 100 miles from start to finish. Our vision is to realize BNSF's tremendous potential by providing transportation services that consistently meet our customers expectations. No, they never had aProviso- Boone long pool. Meanwhile, BNSF is spending $581 million this year to forge . U.S. and global economies rely on rail, and BNSF is a vital link in the global supply chain. Which meant that many crewsmight not be able to make the far treminal on their HOS. The Clinton-Mo Valleylong poolhandles mostly intermodal trains. Railroading is a big world filled with impressive and interesting people. If anybody could help me out, that would be awesome. Apparently extending crew districts is in E. Hunter Harrison's bag of tricks, which as far as I know now, he hasn't yet pulled out. Information about the railroad through Flagstaff, Arizona The rail line through Flagstaff is operated by the Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railway (BNSF). Crew districts are not static. Or, did they get rid of it because there was too much congestion / delays east of Clinton? Ogden, Salt Lake Cityor Pocatello is after Green River. I find it ironic that the MILW expandend some of their districts just as deferredmaintenance caused speeds to drop. Bassano was located at almost the exact halfway point on the Sub. I'd wonder if the average speed of the slowest Milwaukee freights on the Trans-Missouri Division during the first generation diesel era would have been more like 25 MPH as opposed to 12.5 MPH. BNSF purchases material and service items from an extensive list of sources. It is interesting when you look at old ETT's. . 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Microsoft Train Simulator BNSF Phoenix Sub Crew Change Points? Yermo isn't much more than a wide spot in the road that the I-15 bypassed. Back in the 60's, the SP had a run out of Los Angeles to Santa Barbara, CA. If I'm wrong, the UP guys will probably weigh in, but on the OverlandRoute east of Cheyenne, I believe the closest crew change points are inNorth Platte and Fremont, Nebraska and in Boone, Iowa. However, the longestcrew division is CP's Belleville Subdivision from Smiths Falls ONto Toronto Yard (197 track miles) where the Toronto Terminal officially begins or ends. For the moment I still have more tracks, trains, and switches then they do, but that is changing rapidly, as two new rail facilities are planned for this town. It just affects the waythe train crew's pay is calculated. During April many coal mtys will govia Cheyenne to the Orin line while the tunnel west of Guernseyis being day lighted. BNSF's secure customer website enables shipment tracking, bill payment, and more. But I hear it is coming. Goodson said that if employees work on the weekends, they can earn a single point to add to their total. One thing to remember is there are some long and some short pools. Crew Change Points : Needles, Winslow Yards: Needles, Winslow Junctions @ West Williams, Phoenix Sub (BNSF) MP 375.0 Highest point: 7,322 ft @ Arizona Divide. GN 441 Luxury Locomotive Lodge: Westbound to Montana I thought I read that UP phased out Rawlins, and all trains go throughto Green River from Cheyenne. "There's times I'll go a week without seeing my kids [for] more than 10 to 15 minutes just because it's such a brutal policy.". I know OTR truckers are only to work so many hours before they have to sign out and rest. So shovel the coal, let this rattler roll. Would this be the right list for the Transcon? When they eventually finish their Blair and Clinton projects(not any time soon) I expect a push tochange the crew districts. For instance, Sanford, Florida, was the south end of one railroad and the north end of another; both roads were absorbed by the Plant System--which went into the Atlantic Coast Line. BNSF crews frequently change crews here at Eola yard in Aurora, IL. "The cutoff made traversing New Mexico with freight easier by eliminating the steep grades of the Raton Pass from the route and the use of extra locomotive power to make the trip.". Maybe an old BN expert can help us here, but didn't BN change some crew districts in Montana to run up to 450 miles? Amazing the mass of RR knowledge amongst the members of this forum. Men in chain gang freightservice preferred being called in McCombfor a run to Gwin, since it was farther than a run to New Orleans. But completing the historic route wasn't the last piece of the puzzle. Plus a new pool might be in place to handle the New Baltimore intermodal terminal. They can only work 12 hours by federal law. Not every crew change point has one (Mason City, IA may be getting one in the future) but except for the few in the eastern US, all are UP crew change points. Amtrak runs Whitefish to Havre, but I think all freights recrew at Shelby, MT, I think the other crew change is at Wolf Point, MTrather than Glasgow, MT. Terms Of Use | Notice at Collection | Privacy | 2022 BNSF Railway Company. In Gillette, she said they have just two new hires compared to 18 that have left since the Hi-Viz policy was implemented. (I've heard about helpers living in Tabernash but don't know if that's a permanent thing or not. In order to get a minimum speed of 12 or so MPH on the 0.5% ruling grades, the locomotives should have been able to maintain 25 or more MPH on level track, hence my wondering about 200 mile crew changes. CP never owned any of those ginormous tenders like the Santa Fe had to get across the arid areas they served. * Denver northeast: Sterling, CO? Illinois locomotive engineer describes brutal scheduling, new We are committed to proactively identify, attract and develop long-term partnerships with certified minority, woman and veteran-owned and small disadvantaged businesses, while fulfilling BNSF Vision and Values. The dispatchers were forced to make better meets, yardmasters to get trains out of the yards better and so on. On the CPR, in Canada, the longest crew district is the Brooks Sub. About ten years ago the railroad proposed moving almost everyone from Boone to Rochelle.
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