In fact, its probable to some degree. Is there much shareable knowledge about the gang in the area? A wave of deadly exorcisms have griped the country, under the guise of religion, at the hand of a death cult. This makes no sense. I know if I was hiking and wandering in the jungle (and presumably possibly lost although not quite realizing this at this point), I would be curious about a manmade structure like this. And hen you have body parts belonging to other persons also found with these girls. Nobody knows what happened to Kris and Lisanne and everything is open to speculation until more information is found. Wow, theres a lot going on in this picture. Another important detail was disclosed to the public: Hctor Abrego was actively searching for the missing . Basically akin to that in the movie the predator. Like a trap net or something. If one or both of the phones were missing, it would have generated more questions. Also, no organ stealing, no cartels, no people traffickers, nothing to do with tribes, cults, sects, etc. And the police are not helping at all it seems to me that they want to destroy the investigation. There are so many possibilities and we will probably never really know. December 12, 2022. The bones of Lisannes foot were fractured in an unusual way (from the top down). What do you think?? It even appears they have some kind tattoo on their back. On one website, almost every user is convinced, that all the daylight pictures were photoshopped, even this one here, No.505. No Chris, I assure you, police investigations are routinely botched like this in the third world. . The white and red object on the left looks slightly like a cows head and what I took to be Kriss tousled hair on the left of her head now looks like the thumb and fore finger of her left hand pointing to the inside of the hut. The families of both Froonand Kremers also became concerned when they didn't get a usual check-in call. That is an interesting photo taken of Kris Kremers under the slatted roof. Its up to the public now the government closed the case 6 years ago. I think they were murdered and their greatest mistake was to travel to this little town in Panama. "It is our intention -- almost exactly one month following this tragic accident -- to give proper thanks to all those who supported our families during this difficult time, as well as to have many outstanding questions answered by way of a swift and thorough investigation," the families said in a joint statement. If so then those could tell some information. Perhaps this is someone who had already joined them along the trail, and that only one of the girls was cool with the third party thats why the complete change from the first exuberant pictures. OmgIm staring at this pic. There are over 30 fingerprints on the blue backpack which belongs to one of the girls, but they dont want to investigate the fingerprints. I dont know what Chris means by this, but at first I thought it was a wooden post sticking up from the ground and painted white at the top. Being disoriented, and losing a companion, hunger, asthma. The day before theguided tour, however, they decided to explore the area surrounding the activeBarVolcano towards the Continental Divide. I wonder? That said, tourists wear shorts and sandals because they are not used to the heat or aware of such social norms. Just trying to get as many ideas together as possible, so that some clue may surface one day. Why? Missing Lynn Haven juveniles. I just would like to know if you see that as well? Again, these are just observations. Most travelers that have big experiences want to remember the small details of trips, because the trip represents an important memory in their life. Hi Mel, thanks for sharing. Perhaps the truth will come out someday. I see the nose and mouth and possibly and eye, like they were trying to hide from the girls or camera and peaking behind branches creepy. And the weird flesh colored thing hanging in the tree to her left could be a skinned animal. What people are mistaking as blood from her nose and lip is again just a shadow cast from her nostril and lower lip due to the bright sun. They obviously protect the predator(s). Froonand Kremerswere both in their early 20s; they traveled toPanama to work with children. Sure, anyone can do these things with a computer and specialized knowledge but with this level of competence? Highlighted areas of interest (some not yet discussed I think): I think the night pictures were made by the killers to make it look like they were lost and trying to signal for help. Something I hadnt noticed before until I could see the photos upclose, (the one where she is hunched over) is that her face looks distorted; it doesnt look like her almost as if its some kind of mask. Or perhaps its an offshoot from the trail along a natural gully that leads to a dead-end? How certain are we that they started at the trail head as we are told? Phone records. Youtube channel backpackercoach or backpackingcoach i think, has a video called is it a cave? where he shows a section of trail that looks much like that. If someone had access to their phones, they might have deleted them. However, the perpetrators likely wanted the authorities to believe they were taken on the pianista trail. This article seems to have a crop from high resolution version of the above photo. In all the other pictures she is always got her arms visible, I find this very odd. Panamas government is stuck in a desperate position. Why are both her hands behind her back? In Central America, dogs arent usually seen as something to protect and cuddle. Both of these 2 boys died shortly after, by murder or by accident. It is a suicide decision and they, experienced travellers, know that. Europe is the world . And we also have more than 500 sets of human remains believed to be archived across the . No accident. I noticed this too. However, amiscommunication led to them arriving in Boquete too early for their program, which Kremersnoted was "rude and not at all friendly" in a diary entry. Froons bones appeared as if they had decomposed naturally, but Kremerss bones were mysteriously stark white as if they had been bleached, raising questions about whether someone had been involved in their deaths. Debra Ann Velleman, of Waukesha, Wis., and Sue L. Borries, of Teutopolis, Ill., are missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama on Jan. 3, 2022. 3. He has a weapon like o jr t in his hands. Is the time that photo was taken known? In other pictures of her crossing water she is clearly dirty with her hair up. Have you looked closely at what Chris has labelled the insignia. In 2014 Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, both from the Netherlands were traveling and exploring the Central American country of Panama. Theres no telling how many people touched it before the police got it. Between taking the last foto (Nr 508) at 12:54 local time and the first SOS call at 16:39 local time something happened. I wondered if it was a mirror or piece of metal and her reflection. You will notice another branch of dead leaf just below it. I dissagree with her hand beeing tied. The science can speak for itself. Ive been to Brasil and the Amazon and spent nights there in the rain with a crowd though. I must have been living in a cave and totally preoccupied with myself when this happened because I only stumbled across this via a Youtube video ( one of many) by Juan Perea Y Monsuw on Friday. There seems to be no pictures of the dog. I am thinking while I am writing so please be patient with me. Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon were both adventurers. Had someone told them about something worth seeing? Update Dec 2, 2021: The full-resolution version of this photo was released in 2021. I think its very possible that someone was with them or joined them along the way at some point. I wish I had them as actual photographs that I could shuffle around until I can place them in the order in which I think they were taken. Im very curious what your experience is living in Latin America, because generalizations like your statement are certainly inconsistent with many disappearance stories and law enforcement activity here. This is the real one: It was taken on the Continental Divide on April 1st, 2014 with the recorded time: 13:20:32. The total number of people who have gone missing in Mexico since 2006 and have never been found stands at almost 87,855, according to the government from a report earlier this year. On the far right upper right of the photo. This is a fake and the pixellation errors can be seen up close (the gap in the crook of her right arm is IN FRONT OF her). It was taken on the Continental Divide on April 1st, 2014 with the recorded time: 13:20:32. Shock and fear and protecting their family from pain was the goal. I prefer to think that the two girls had some sort of accident, still horrific but better than being murdered. And if there would be any clue in them that the girls were hurt intentionally, the parents would not stop being vocal about it. "I saw a child get dragged down the river when he let go of his parents' hands. If a psychic reading leads to some legitimate form of tangible evidence and made public, then thats excellent, but otherwise I think its mostly a distraction. It is extremely easy to photoshop a photo once it has been darkened. This is significant because image 508 was the last photograph of them where they werent in any trouble. Several of the relatives and friends of those visitors to the Quintana Roo who went missing formed a group named "Truth, Memory, and Justice" in an attempt to . Hi Susan, those are all possibilities. Friends Kris Kremers (born August 9th, 1992) and Lisanne Froon (born September 24th, 1991) were two Dutch tourists who went missing under mysterious circumstances in early April of 2014 while on vacation in Panama, allegedly disappearing during a hike on the Pianista trail near Boquete.. Could the structure built above be some sort of a net or trapping device? I implore those who are intrigued by this to read his books. A serious accident.immediategetting lost just building panic. They do nothing to further discourse surrounding this tragedy and only attract people who think its fun to join in with conspiracies about the deaths of these two very real girls with very real families (who are suffering tremendous heartbreak). The limited number of attempts especially on the first day is very strange. It needs to be stressed that while the AI upsampled image looks impressive, it cannot and does not recover any lost information. The place itself might reveal some clues as to what sort of person or people would construct it and what are the chances of them doing something bad. Its at the very top of the post. For pareidiologists, in the Cave photo on the right just over halfway from Kris head to the edge of the photo there is an arm and hand tied to a tree, and to the right of Kris leg is the sole of a walking boot with a light stripe down the middle. That is the big picture of this case. ALSO, I really want to know where and when Kris quit wearing her backpack! However, the tone of the pictures began to change. But after they waved goodbye to the local family for a mid-morning walk on April 1, 2014, they were never seen alive again. Perhaps a piece of a tarp or a wrapper? I think that I read somewhere that something blue was found on one of the shoes. It seems likely it was tribal. Does anyone agree with me? Her hair is also too clean and shiny for someone who has been out in the jungle for 8 days. His . the only strange element in this photo is the distance. Thank you so much for walking the walk. Hi Chris, to me the place Kris is in looks really spooky, but I also think it looks like the entrance to a cave. Looking carefully at her forehead you can see theres only the shade from a pole but her face is shaded. Full remains were found soon afterward and were assumed to be the two missing women. In image 505, it is around 4:30 PM on April 1st. And the hair photo shows him holding Kris by the neck (you can see his fingers, one wearing a silver ring with faces engraved on it). See the State Department's travel website for the Worldwide Caution and Travel Advisories. The local jungle tribes people have been looking for the girls. Its texture and color seemingly resembles the red bag tied to the SOS stick on the rock later on, imo. The oddest thing about this photo is the look on her face which looks very distorted. To the creator of this photo analysis Thank You, excellent work. Hard noncontroversial evidence is very limited and what there is is open to interpretation. The Lost Girls of Panama: The Full Story. She ties the red bags to branches so they can spot her if they get near. The last photo of Kris on the rocks doesnt appear to have any evidentiary value to me. After days reviewing the evidence, Im now going to share a synopsis of what I believe happened there in the deep, dark cloud forest of Panama. They had plans to meet men there as their boyfriends.Check men they used to Date or seen. scary It looks a bit wierd, but that is just because everybody is assuming they see her upper arm when in reality is is her lower arm. They came to learn a language and embrace a culture. The circular part looks like vines to me, but the portion in the middle has potential to be a cow skull. Not saying that its impossible, but very VERY difficult to edit photos seamlessly. Also important is who they met because two tall and very attractive new arrivals would certainly get all the boys tongues wagging. He has a reasonable explanation for why she is having to bend down, and he found video where you can see a turn to the left where kris is. Out of the dozens of calls, only one managed to connect, but broke up after just two seconds due to the lack of reception. Being in a foreign country, in the tropical rainforests, especially for young curious minds, is a very unique experience. This was incredibly naive but then they only just arrived.. What took them past the divide? If you think America is a safe country youre extremely ignorant or niieve. Thank you, Sue. Slight left and up from the girl. We do not know what other clothing or items they possibly took. I think that the taxi driver knew who has killed them thats why sb killed him, the guide man who found the bones and their belongings can be the murderer and he was the person went to their room maybe to find the cable charge maybe pretending that he hadnt visited them on the reserved time, then he put their bag and money and camera for police because he was scared they search his house too, the locals heard screaming and then a crash (broken bones due to fall) in the jungle 4 days after their missing and warned about that to some french tourist, this article is long and I didnt sleep last night. You need to be a Photoshop wizard of substantial level to even attempt this and it would take absolute ages. play. It looks like something hand-made. Then there are no images until April 8, when 90 unsettling nighttime pictures were taken with flash in the middle of the jungle with timestamps between 1:00 and 4:00 AM. Theres a lot more information needed to make conclusions. At least the trash element and roof structure looks like very strong evidence. The main areas of tourism in the country focus on business tourism, beaches, health and trade. I think Kris and Lisanne were two smart, savvy, levelheaded young women. Sorry to send so many messages Chris, but as a policewoman I have never liked to give up on a case.. Hello At this point I have to agree with him, and I think its likely the trail guide and some men they met were somehow involved. Links that require download are high-risk by their very nature, so please consider uploading your media to a website like imgur.com or a similar alternative. Hi Jim, That particular photo was supposed to have been taken at 1.20 pm. Its perfectly normal and had they not tragically passed, its the type of photo theyd have been joking about later. Update Dec 2, 2021: The full-resolution version of this photo was released in 2021. Jalisco prosecutors said that three people still seem to be missing after a gang kidnapped a group of tourists at the Pacific resort of Puerto Vallarta earlier this month. Its not a very long trail and I think when they got to the end of the trail they made their really big mistake. I think that this is a photoshopped image made by cutting out a picture of Kris and pasting it onto a background to give the false impression that Kris and Lisanne went on the Pianista Trail. Daytime would be sweaty but what about at night when the temperature would be down in the 50-60s? And I think that sunlight she is trying t avoid also is the reason for her facial expression. Maybe someone had her in there sitting on the rock, and she heard them coming back and got up quickly to turn around. I wish we had the answers to your questions. Before you even pointed out the manmade ceiling structure I noticed that. There are some walls of rock in an area which I think is called los Naranjos, not too far from the Pianista trail (relatively speaking) and is where people go climbing. It appears further down as well. David Lee Thomas Bass - Facts About the Musician. The students' phone records also tragically revealed how they desperately tried to call the police. I wrote about the upcoming book here: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/12/09/new-book-coming-spring-2021-kris-kremers-and-lisanne-froon-case/. It would be like a marker for anyone to see. What do you think? Someone watched them swimming. That said, even if there is a structure there, it has been made clear that there are a lot of trails on the other side of the El Mirador that are used by the indigenes, so it wouldnt be surprising to see indications of these areas being used. Maybe one girl regained consciousness at night and took the pictures. Or if someone deleted them? There are plenty of reasonable explanations for why someone would have returned the phones and the backpack. Just a few weeks later hes found dead. As a side note, if all of the photos are in the order in which they were taken, why do they put their hair up, and take it down so much? Photo 509 was removed first. Kris had her doubts but was jollied along by the more trusting girl. Hi Anna, yes, Im aware of that and thank you for shedding light on that for other readers. Perhaps that is where this photo was taken and a search should be done there. Latin America has tens of thousands of small communities, all of which operate slightly differently to some degree. The night picture she is standing in same spot and someone is doing something to her lower leg or foot ,you can see them under her. I do not see any eyes, but I can definitely see a nose and a mouth. Were their phones not able to text? Two intelligent girls could not be veering off course to this dense vegetation on their own accord. They got lost and succumbed to the wild. Do we know who owned the dog named Blue (aka Azul). Its thought that Kremers and Froon were exploring nature without anyone else around. It is the morning of April 8th. We have no way of knowing if somebody tried to unlock the phone but failed. Something happened between the morning and afternoon of the 5th because it was in the afternoon that a wrong pin was entered and subsequently every time thereafter. The blue item could be anything, but shows someone has been there before. Is it possible that Kris and Lisanne reached this field with fencing (past the second stream crossing) and mistook this place to be a different entry to the farm areas which are closer to the trail head ? Hi Justin, great work with sharpening this image. Im not understanding why they bothered to create a cover story. Bringing justice to assailants that harm tourists is very often not a top priority, and it shows through the number of botched investigations. ), which doesnt look natural. Minha Querida menina. Ive seen cases in which political frenemies were erased out of photos without a trace. This is speculation. Not to mention her hair was down in the photos at the beginning of the hike and now they appear to be in at least two pony tails where devil horns would be. Thanks for your consideration with this comment. Reading this reminded me of another photo the girls took of a branch with what appears to be red plastic attached to it. The camera and photos were tampered with with photos removed and other photos cropped and reduced in size. I agree w rope around waste thst wasnt there before, hair is completely down Aldo, shes in distree. This either meant Lisanne Froon was conscious while Kris was not, and tried to call emergency services, or that a third party tried to get into her phone but didnt succeed. Kris is clearly sticking out her tongue at someone. Does anyone else see what looks like the back of someones head, their bare back and arm inside the manmade circular object? Estou certa que no foi Lisanne que a tirou. They want to protect their tourism industry but they also dont have the resources to effectively stop gang violence. I am Photoshop expert, and I promise you that its virtually impossible to edit images in any way without it being noticeable at the pixel level. I dont understand the question. This case really creeps me out, specially the findings and the pictures. I would prefer to stay anonymous and off the website, so you have permission to use my email. Chris, I hope you and a team go but I also understand, in the present age of uncertainty, if you dont. Even on my iPhone I could make it big enough to see odd things in the pic. I agree that her hands look like they are over head. and then found by someone and then the real nightmare started. Although it might be the sun that gives her face a strange expression. Read Matts article about the daytime photos (link) for more detailed information. Nothing more sinister than that. More than 100 pictureswere on the camera; the first few looked like normal tourist photos with the womensmiling together. And I cannot fathom standing this way, hands behind the back and turned like that unless my hands were restricted behind my back. I just find it strange that no video diary or fotos of each other made after 508. This connected callwas stable for roughly two seconds. thank you for sharing this. Photoshopping is not hard to do nor is it very tactical as many have proposed here. I also think those girls probably already perished before the dates on those daytime photos. They were lost very shortly after arriving at their destination, And then they made a huge mistake by heading due north to find their way back home and they should have been going to the southeast. I could be wrong, but until I see some compelling evidence to the contrary, Im sticking with Juans theory. To me it looks like the chopped off end of a thick tree branch. I believe that the case was handled so poorly that it leads one to believe that it was intentionally handled as such. Why would they remove them? Hi Louie, Unfortunately no. I noticed that youve submitted two more links in another newer comment. Another case that comes to mind is the case of Holger Hagenbusch: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/07/02/holger-hagenbusch-a-disturbing-murder-and-exposed-coverup-in-mexico/. In the leaked images some 90% of the original information is irretrievably lost trying to read anything into any of the remaining spots and splotches is fools errand. Where is YNW Melly? The picture people think she is looking down she is hanging with hands tied behind her back. They probably came off the summit the wrong way. Where are those Pings? Theres some type of red and black object at the top of the photo. Hi Carin, thanks for your comment. perhaps there is much that was missed by a very bungled police investigation. Yes indeed!I hadnt noticed that before!is it a carved rock of sorts?. On closer inspection this and the cave photo appear heavily manipulated. So, if the dog went on the hike with the girls, its most likely that the owners would not have known that fact. I was definitely thinking it looks like her hands might be tied behind her back here. So this sparked my curiosity. Who knows if the girls really went for a walk that day by themselves? Dogs are very independent here. I believe that this case WILL be solved. Btw, phones will connect to emergency services with or without sim card being present. And look at it from this point of view. https://postimg.cc/94q0cVhH. This photo of Kris Kremers is identified as Photo 505. From my understanding, there was no warning signs on the trail. Nothing can explain the bones, the cut foot, their underwear in one of the backpacks. However, calling emergency services doesnt require unlocking the phone, meaning a third party had to be involved. There's no telling how many ships or planes have "disappeared" in the Bermuda Triangle, but the U.S. Navy estimates that around 50 ships and 20 aircraft have gone missing there. Also last year, 22-year-old Florida man Craig Taylor was found strangled to death on a dirt road in Punta Sam, north of downtown Cancun. And it seems to be leading to a dead-end. The non-waterproof lycra backpack mysteriously shows up, with completely dry contents. With regards to the photos, they are probably real. Please remember to be considerate of the two girls that lost their lives and their families. I think someone followed the girls, caught them, killed them and brought them somewhere, hid them, so they were never found. He wasnt walking with them. They are 99.999999% preventable. Probably the culprit or stupid tribe didnt delete anything coz they took pictures on purpose .for example to sell the footage .but allready the police or parents who asked the investigator to delete it .they just simply didnt want to show it to everyone.